Rumour control: Windows 7 expected in 2009, says AMD

I had to chuckle there as well!

Comment by crazyceo at 11:37am 7th October 2008

LOL @ graphics department moving over to Mac's

Comment by EdArch at 3:03am 6th October 2008

I have Microsoft Vista on 7 pc's in the house and the 3 in work all with Microsoft Office 2003 and 2007. I don't need some Linux rubbish and I have never had to send additional software to a prospective, existing client or business contact to open one of my email attachments or files. The business world runs on Microsoft Office and it's running fine!

Comment by crazyceo at 8:50am 5th October 2008

you could just save the Open office file as the Microsoft equivalent it worked between open office 2.0 on my laptop and office2003 on my desktop they don't relies that its another office suite sending the info.

Comment by Cool_CR at 10:09pm 4th October 2008

I hated NT, 98, ME, 2003, XP, Vista and i will hate 7 when it comes out and you all will to. Its just a sad fact that Microsoft in there infinite wisdom have never actual managed to finish an os at the time of release. 98se, 2000 and xp64 were very close to being finished and therefore the best microsoft has come up with. But really XP was only any good as 98se was so out of date and ME was well the less said the better i don't want to swear. Vista though had to go up against XP SP2 and SP3 which it must be said were actual not bad at all the big floors security holes etc were gone and it worked cannot say fearer than that. Vista as it now stands is also not bad the nannying is very irritating but more people than you would think need it as everyone now uses a pc and i have to fix at least 5 different ones a month some times more than once each its nearly always software or the occasional dreaded HDD failure mostly its the users fault and the software has just let them do something silly. I use Vista64, XP, XP64, 2000 and Suse 11 so i know my os systems Vista is the most idiot proof of the lot. Not perfect not streamline not even necessary really as XP64 got you covered for more than 4GB of ram and DX10 well im still waiting Still if it was a choice of new OS if i didn't have one already Vista over xp every time. On a side note Linux can be a really pig to get DX9 out of it (i tried with out paying for wine x and i think my eyes were bleeding from lack of sleep after 3 days at my keyboard) but if your not interested in games then its just awesome (all businesses should use it)

Comment by Cool_CR at 8:20pm 4th October 2008

I hated NT, 98, ME, 2003, XP, Vista and i will hate 7 when it comes out and you all will to. Its just a sad fact that Microsoft in there infinite wisdom have never actual managed to finish an os at the time of release. 98se, 2000 and xp64 were very close to being finished and therefore the best microsoft has come up with. But really XP was only any good as 98se was so out of date and ME was well the less said the better i don't want to swear. Vista though had to go up against XP SP2 and SP3 which it must be said were actual not bad at all the big floors security holes etc were gone and it worked cannot say fearer than that. Vista as it now stands is also not bad the nannying is very irritating but more people than you would think need it as everyone now uses a pc and i have to fix at least 5 different ones a month some times more than once each its nearly always software or the occasional dreaded HDD failure mostly its the users fault and the software has just let them do something silly. I use Vista64, XP, XP64, 2000 and Suse 11 so i know my os systems Vista is the most idiot proof of the lot. Not perfect not streamline not even necessary really as XP64 got you covered for more than 4GB of ram and DX10 well im still waiting Still if it was a choice of new OS if i didn't have one already Vista over xp every time. On a side note Linux can be a really pig to get DX9 out of it (i tried with out paying for wine x and i think my eyes were bleeding from lack of sleep after 3 days at my keyboard) but if your not interested in games then its just awesome (all businesses should use it)

Comment by Cool_CR at 8:20pm 4th October 2008

If I sent a financial report or company information to a prospective client and had to tell them to install some crap software just to read what I had sent them. I wouldn't get the business. They would just say "What's this crap!" and "Well if he's that cheap that he wont even get Microsoft Office (the most commonly used office software in the world), then what level of service is this guy going to give me?" Even Apple realised they couldn't compete with Microsoft Office by working with Microsoft to make Office 2008. How is changing to Linux going to stop people surfing the net for porn or ebay? That activity can also be stopped going through a Windows server. I said it below, some IT managers don't progress and are too lazy to keep taking the exams for future software and hardware changes. They create the bias to hide their own lack of knowledge.

Comment by crazyceo at 9:29pm 4th October 2008

HAHAHA Linux? Vista is the most secure OS due to locking out open source and is the fastest selling as well. Selective memory again as XP was also a very slow take up and was buggy as hell. Microsoft Windows is the ONLY operating system and the only reason IT managers are still using Xp or Linux is due to their own lack of knowledge. Most good IT managers have already passed their exams for Windows Server 2008 at great time and cost. Linux, Mac same difference just incompatible rubbish for people who have heard someone else shout their dislike for Microsoft and want to get on the band wagon. Theres nothing Linux/Mac/Spacedust can do that Microsoft software can't and there's a hell of a lot that Microsoft software can that Linux/Mac fanboys wish they could do! FACT!

Comment by crazyceo at 9:16pm 4th October 2008

"Vista is the most secure OS released"

Might be the most secure of Microsoft OS's (which is highly debateable), but...
", and also the fastest selling for MS"
Nonsense. Every tech site and analyst to date have stated that XP far outsold/is outselling Vista when comparable stats are shown. And that isn't even counting the huge number of businesses who are buying Vista but downgrading to XP as is their right under XP Pro and also their contracts with MS and/or their PC vendors.
At my company they originally planned to skip XP and wait for the next version, but when they saw what garbage Vista was, they started migrating to XP asap because by the time they made the decision to migrate they already had a backlog of orders for desktops and servers. After having looked at the hardware requirements for Vista, along with the probable hardware requirements for W7, along with the costs of migrating/porting software over and all the testing and development costs involved for upgrading, they reconsidered. Thanks to having admins who know what they are doing with Windows, but who are also experienced and certified on Linux (a hiring decision the company made more than 5 years ago), the company rolled out some servers for web and other services last year. Earlier this year they made the move to file serving and authentication (I think authentication was this year, may have been last year as well), along with their mission critical apps being ported over to Linux as well, and we are currently at about 75% Linux desktops internally and around 60% at the customer facing desktops. The IT department figures we'll be at 95%+ Linux in all departments by the end of the first quarter next year. While there was some resistance in the beginning, after seeing the results, nearly everyone is happy. In our business and I suspect many others, the only time you see the underlying OS is if you want to, and at that point you are doing something you're not supposed to be doing on the desktop. All the apps we use everyday are apps specifically to run our business, and running those apps doesn't show you what the OS is. But what was noticed was that email is faster, never goes down, there are no more viruses, and I can't recall the last time anyone in my department rebooted for any reason. The only bitter ones over the switchover are the ones that miss IE (who were wasting time online with specific sites that required IE for whatever reason), and who waste less time online now (it's also monitored a lot more closely now), and the individuals who wasted hours every day playing solitaire and other MS games. There are no installed games on our desktops any more, and there was a huge crackdown (over 20 people fired) on those playing online poker during the workday.
According to my manager and in our weekly newsletter, thanks to the licensing savings, hardware repurposing and savings, along with increased productivity by us switching to Linux, we still have the same number of employees working in IT, but they now answer the phone on the first or second ring regardless of the time of day, it's extremely rare for someone in IT to work unscheduled overtime, and they now have time to implement things like internal wikis for projects, far more sophisticated messaging, video calling, vpns that allow us to access all the functionality while on the road, and a lot more. And according to my manager, the overall mood in the IT department is far better than it used to be. Those employees that were griping about the switchover have learned to keep quiet as they learned that those that griped were most likely to be singled out as slackers and end up fired because they drew attention to themselves and IT and management were able to identify all the rules they were breaking (game playing, ebay bidding/watching, porn, music file trading, poker playing, running unauthorized wireless so they could surf or work while killing time in the coffee shop across the street or using the wireless to trade music/movie files, etc).
From what I've been told, the graphics department are standardizing on Macs, accounting used to be Unix but are now Linux, and even our phone system is now run using Linux, with multi-failover for the phone system, file servers and application servers. Since the servers were switched over, there hasn't been any downtime at all for the file and application servers. For anyone who gets to keep a windows desktop for whatever reason (specialized application requirement, politically connected employee, supervisor's or VP's son/daughter), they'll all be running MS on vmware or whatever other Linux virtual application allows running a MS desktop.
MS Office is gone, OpenOffice replacing it mostly. We now exchange documents via pdf a lot more, along with ODF formatted files. When sending docs to another company, we're required to provide links to OpenOffice's download site, along with pdf tools for Windows, among others. If we send out documents on CD or USB keys, we're required to include either the Windows version of OpenOffice, or a file containing links and instructions for downloading and installing OpenOffice and Windows pdf tools for everyone.

Comment by Bifff12 at 5:49pm 4th October 2008

I love windows it has changed my life and how i do things over and over and over again ,windows was as big a leap for productivity and creativity for me as the moon landing was for NASA ,It just gets better and better , the main reason it will be stripped down in my opinion is purely down to the increased complexity of each individual aspect within windows itself witch is a shame i for one would like to see windows growing not shrinking ,like a full editor not unlike photoshop in the my pictures folder,full ripping solution so on..

Comment by jmcgartland at 9:46am 4th October 2008

after discovering the hard way, that vista is a pathetic O,System, after it downloads service pack one, it will no longer reconise my tuner card ect, I would not purchase a new version of windows untill, some genius introduces a patch for it, lol and as we all know that will happen, as they are avalible for all versions of windows, and the most expensive software,

Comment by jamiekid at 3:54pm 3rd October 2008

but I think all this 2009 is just Beta. It will be 2010 and I think late 2010 at that. Let's not forget it's come from AMD who will probably be out of business by then. LOL just kidding all you AMD fanboys!!!!!

Comment by crazyceo at 10:28pm 2nd October 2008

3 years is about okay as a minimum - but 2 years between Windows releases at the retail price they are charging now is just not enough.

Comment by Xonerater at 7:53pm 2nd October 2008

I would suggest you actually look at the facts, Vista is the most secure OS released, and also the fastest selling for MS

Comment by finlay666uk at 5:15pm 2nd October 2008

I'm actually quite looking forward to Windows 7. I have skipped Vista because I just didn't particularly get on with it. I do like the idea of having a more stripped down approach, and I'm hoping performance will be boosted by this

Comment by cyberspice1 at 4:52pm 2nd October 2008

this is a secret. A technet email the other day invited me to LA (after paying a huge fee) for PDC2008 later in the month: "Have you heard that PDC2008 is the place to see the coolest new technology, and get your hands on the latest pre-beta bits - including Windows 7? Attendees will also receive a 160 GB drive of all PDC bits. "

Comment by nenos at 4:27pm 2nd October 2008

If it wasn't for the fact that XP had so many teething problems which let's be honest most people now have selective memory on that, we would have had Vista earlier. Vista started off the same way with teething problems which now have been sorted. XP fanboys need to wake up and realise they will truly be left behind once Windows 7 is released. They already have with Vista 32 & 64 bit in their current format. Windows 7 is the replacement for Vista not a reduced OS. Many aspects were originally removed from Vista like WinFS which is bound for Windows 7. I do think it will just be Beta testing in 2009 and full release in 2010.

Comment by crazyceo at 4:33pm 2nd October 2008

because so many people who bought Vista will be hacked off that it only lasts 2 years tops before the next release and potentially massive outlay. All my Vista installs are OEM and even I would feel I was led around the garden path - to put it nicely.

Comment by Xonerater at 4:08pm 2nd October 2008

Is win7 a cut down version of Vista? If so, I'm happy with what I've got already.

Comment by CSQuake at 4:05pm 2nd October 2008

OMG when will they get the dam message. Vista was the most unsuccessful OS to date, and seeing as Windows 7 features less of the semi useful stuff and more of the pointless stuff such as a 'Multi-touch interface,' I can't see how Microsoft's logic is going to pay off. It will just sit on shop shelves collecting dust.

Comment by mitzy1002000 at 3:56pm 2nd October 2008

probably might mean windows 7 alpha will be out for testing by AMD :P

Comment by thegreat0mi at 1:35pm 2nd October 2008

XP stuck around far too long and Vista now is a very good OS. However, Vista had quite a few things trimmed off before release which have been saved and perfected for Windows 7. If they think they will be ready next year then I for one would welcome that.

Comment by crazyceo at 12:33pm 2nd October 2008

Now I am caught in a conundrum. I had finally decided to upgrade to Vista 64 bit from my XP version. As 64 bit Vista seem to be getting quite a lot of good press. Dont really want to install Vista now and then having to swap to Windows 7 next year. Rather wait... oh what to do

Comment by jonisaksson at 12:25pm 2nd October 2008

It says a lot 40nm chip yah from intel stereoscopic displays again yah from Nvidia was this actual about AMD or is this just what we can expect from everyone else. (im very sad that they dont have 45nm chip right now)

Comment by Cool_CR at 12:16pm 2nd October 2008

Digital walls? DIGITAL WALLS? Next we'll all be flying to work in hovercars. On a more serious point, interesting to note that they've got stereoscopic displays on there - at the moment, ATI don't support 3D displays, only Nvidia do, so that might a clue that they're going to start doing that...

Comment by Sifter3000 at 11:51am 2nd October 2008

Hopefully I'll get to beta it :D

Comment by finlay666uk at 11:47am 2nd October 2008

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